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A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

I have open the Folio that I have originally made for the iPad on a Samsung Galaxy Tab and I see a lot of differences in the way movies are played.

It seems that for the iPad I need to always use the H264 codec, but on a Samsung galaxy tablet this is not the good way to do it. After various tests I see that I must use the F4V format (which uses the H264 codec) in Adobe Media Encoder CS5.Five

The problem is that F4V with the H264 codec can’t be read on the iPad.

– Or there is only one method to create movie files that can be read on iOS and Android and it would be superb if somebody can tell me which app and which presets to use.

– Or we must always create two different movie exports, one for iOS and the other one for Android.

In DPS’ s user manual, this issue is not covered.

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1. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

In this thread http://forums.adobe.com/thread/868201 a contributor proposes the Handbrake method to create the common movie to iOS and Android.

It works but there is step to add: the iPhone/iPod preset generates a file with the .M4V extension which can’t be imported into InDesign (greyed out). I had to switch its extension to .MP4 so InDesign accepts it.

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Two. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

+1 for handbrake.  Mine defaults to the m4v format, so not sure about the issue there.  Also, m4v imports into InDesign just fine.  When you go to place the vid, select ALL FILES instead of importable files, then select your m4v.  It will display up in your comp.

I also see posts around the net telling that m4v won’t work with Android, which is not true.

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Trio. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Use tje adobe media encoder for fine tuning codec settings .

For rapid conversion I use Miro movie converter.

Mp4 encoded with h.264 work fine on iPad and android.

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Four. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Could you please display us a screenshot of your settings in Adobe Media Encoder. I have never successfully encoded an H264 that will work on the Samsung Galaxy.

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Five. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

If you use Handbrake and it generates an m4v file you can just switch the name of the generated file — "m4v" "to mp4". You don’t need to re-encode. They are no different inwards. Adobe Media Encoder works truly well also.

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6. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

johnm64, it seems you have not read this topic. I have read here in this topic about Handbrake and it works. But there are clients who can not determine what they can install on their computers but they have Adobe Media Encoder installed.

When I use Adobe Media Encoder, the movie only works on the iPad but not on the Galaxy.

So you are two guys who say : "In AME it works". OK ! But make a screenshot of your settings and demonstrate it to us. Because just telling, it works will not help the community.

I also encourage the people who are writing the User Manual to better explain the settings that we must use in AME because it is just written "Use H264 and it works".

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7. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

OK– one example in detail: I have both an iPad (iOS) and a Kindle Fire (Android). I shot a movie on my iPhone 4S and edited it in iMovie. iMovie exports the movie as .mov. In Adobe Media Encoder I re-encoded the movie as .mp4. I created a folio which I tested on both devices. The movie played ideally in each. The only difference is that The Kindle Fire only plays the movie in utter screen.

Possibly the Galaxy flavor of Android does not play nicely with mp4?

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8. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Is it possible to make a screenshot of your settings in Adobe Media Encoder. For example like this. Thank you.

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9. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

your settings look ok.

if you still have problems, attempt transcoding with miro converter.

my AME settings:

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Ten. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Adobe, these Adobe Media Encoder CS5.Five settings create a movie that can’t be read on a Samsung Galaxy.

Could you please do a test ? Thank you !

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13. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

What do I need to do to have an reaction to a basic question and a necessary issue ? To buy and Adobe DPS Pro licence ? 😉

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14. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Attempt making it a standard movie size like 1280×720 without switching anything else in your settings.  If that works then you know it has something to do with the pixel dimensions.  Movie players can be quirky about odd pixel dimensions, they like standards.

I would also attempt embarking fresh with the H.264 preset.   Sometimes you can roll over and switch one of the settings(like profile) unintentionally.

Can you play other H.264 files successfully on the Galaxy?  Can you transfer the mp4 file you create directly to the device and attempt to play it with just the device’s OS?

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15. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Does that mean that even if the movie has smaller dimensions I need to put them in 1280×720 ? Because the client tells me : the movies can be petite so the app’s size does not bloat.

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16. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Branislav Milic wrote:

What do I need to do to have an reaction to a basic question and a necessary issue ? To buy and Adobe DPS Pro licence ? 😉

Well, you should also know that in addition to getting your questions answered more promptly, Adobe has top secret ‘DPS Pro/Enterprise Lounges’ in several major cities.  These are not unlike 1st Class Lounges that can be found in airlines.  You get free beer, pretzels, and free wifi.

Okay, now getting serious:

1. HAVE YOU Attempted HANDBRAKE TO ENCODE THE Movie?  If not, stop whatever you’re doing and give it a attempt.  Conversion software is not all the same.  Adobe’s H.264 is better than it’s ever been, but it’s a pretty well-known fact that Handbrake is the BEST encoder out there for mp4/H.264.  Relying on Adobe to always give you satisfactory results for movie conversion is FOLLY. 

Two. I’ve read in several places the Galaxy has trouble with mp4 files.  There’s not a million threads with this news; actually only a handful.  Nonetheless, the news is out there.  I created mp4 files for viewing on a Motorola Xoom and they played FLAWLESSLY.  That’s the trouble with the Android platform – every manufacturer is free to mess with the code and put their own wrapper over the OS.  Things get messed up, and consistency of platform becomes a problem.

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17. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

I’m just attempting to help you with troubleshooting steps.  Since most people aren’t having the same problem it may be an encoder setting, or it may be your device.  Once you figure out what the problem is then you can worry about overcoming the limitations of your device and/or Adobe’s DPS system to best meet your client’s needs.

Attempt getting it to work any way you can.  Don’t assume that your target device is ideal, it has limitations and issues too.  Find out what format of movies the target device does play back and attempt using that.  Attempt using Handbrake as landrvr1 suggested.  Something about what you’re doing isn’t working so keep at it until you figure out what’s wrong.  Trial and error is the only way you’ll know for sure, we can’t indeed tell you since we aren’t using your files on your device.

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Legitimate. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Andrew makes fine suggestions. ESPECIALLY the one about simply attempting to play the mp4 file within the Galaxy’s media/movie player.  If that doesn’t work, that’s going to tell you a lot.

He’s also right on about embarking with a fresh preset.  I’d do H.264, then AppleTV 720p.  Switch to PAL if need be, but don’t mess with anything else.  A VBR 1-pass is more than sufficient for these devices.  Also, checking ‘Use Maximum Render Quality’ is a bit of a trainwreck setting – yielding unpredictable results.  I’ve absolutely never seen that setting IMPROVE the quality of anything – regardless of the footage type or source.  I have, however, seen it mess out the output.

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Nineteen. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

landrvr1 is absolutely right about Handbrake. Even if working only with iPad apps – it’s a fine contraption. And rapid.

But beware, it coerces users to drink excessively – every time it finishes enconding of a movie it orders you to "put down your coctail".

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20. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

COULD YOU PLEASE read what I have written above !?

I know Handbrake, I used it for years, but the point is elsewhere. So please read fully my post before advising me to use Handbrake.

I will attempt the size issue. thank you.

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21. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

I have already created mp4 using the default preset but unluckily it does not play on my Samsung Galaxy tablet.

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22. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

In fact I can not use so-called "movie standard sizes" because I have created a movie cover for my FOLIO so it must be a custom-built size. Also if the client wants a specific movie size, Handbrake does the job but I attempt to make Adobe the same thing with only one encoding in Adobe Media Encoder.

Will keep you updated.

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23. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Branislav Milic wrote:

COULD YOU PLEASE read what I have written above !?

I know Handbrake, I used it for years, but the point is elsewhere. So please read fully my post before advising me to use Handbrake.

I will attempt the size issue. thank you.

I’ve read the post. I utterly and entirely don’t understand what difference it makes if you use Handbrake or AME.   omg.  LOL.

But there are clients who can not determine what they can install on their computers but they have Adobe Media Encoder installed.

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.    Again, no one seems to be following exactly WHY it’s so significant to use AME.   Are you creating templates or movies or material for other people to use?  Even if you were doing that. JUST TELL THEM TO USE HANDBRAKE.  IT’S FREE.

You’ve gotta explain the situation better.

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24. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

I can not install Handbrake on computers of public administrations without the approval of three authorities and pack a lot of paperwork. But they have CS5.Five licences.

Also in Handbrake it only works if we use the iPhone preset, it does not work with the iPad preset. The quality of the movie is lower and does not meet the result of what I can have on the iPad using AME.

If you don’t understand that then you will never work with major institutions.

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25. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Okay, well, did you attempt the straight forward movie test?  Does an mp4 file play in the Galaxy’s media player?

Did you attempt this test yet?:

I’d do H.264, then AppleTV 720p.  Switch to PAL if need be, but don’t mess with anything else.  A VBR 1-pass is more than sufficient for these devices.  Also, checking ‘Use Maximum Render Quality’ is a bit of a trainwreck setting – yielding unpredictable results.  I’ve absolutely never seen that setting IMPROVE the quality of anything – regardless of the footage type or source.  I have, however, seen it mess out the output.

Do that test.  Make sure you only have one pass specified, and uncheck Max Render Quality.

If the resulting movie from that test won’t at least play decently in the Galaxy media player, you should simply stop attempting now because the OS is flawed.  You might as well hit your head against the wall for all the good it’s gonna do.

I’m reaching out to some people in our organization to see if anyone has a Galaxy and is willing to flow one of my folios and test the movie.

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26. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

I never used any supplied presets yet. Trial and error, save preset – and it works.

With public administration, yes – it might be a big problem. I am my own boss, gladfully.

The last thing I would like to do would be to work with a major EU institution;-)

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27. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Adobe have been worse than worthless in resolving the movie issue with our magazine on Android. It works when viewed using the Adobe Content Viewer on a Zoom but not on the same device once it has gone through the production process!

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28. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

I got the correct settings on my h264 movies but it still does not work when i attempt to launch them utter screen.

DId someone find the trick ?

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29. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

Did someone had eventually a movie playing sleekly on the Galaxy Tab ? And which format

I have attempt the MP4 and even the JPG SEQ but it is still not sleek, feel like the movie is leaping or bugging

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30. Re: A universal movie format for iOS and Android?

alright, I attempted like one hundred dirrent things and here’s something that works.

I put my movie in After Effects (so I guess you can do the same with media encoder, but at least here I’m SURE it works fine)

Put your movie in a 1280*720 comp

resize it as you want inwards the comp

then render with these settings (ok it’s in French but just transpose in the boxes)

Related video:

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